Re: Jodi Arias--Trial for the murder of Travis Alexander #23

by olivier57 Thu May 23, 2013 1:02 pm

Mari 68 wrote:We simply can't be angry with this jury if they don't come back with death.

They do not know HALF of what we know. In fact, WE only know HALF of what Juan Martinez knows.

She's never getting out. I'm okay with that.

Yes, all is done not to show anything that could be prejudicial to the defendant outside the crime even if it's real. So it's not surprising if this helps to go "hung".

by 18thcenturylady Thu May 23, 2013 1:02 pm

Mari 68 wrote:We simply can't be angry with this jury if they don't come back with death.

They do not know HALF of what we know. In fact, WE only know HALF of what Juan Martinez knows.

She's never getting out. I'm okay with that.

Unfortunately, that's not the case if she's given life. The jurors have no control or assurance that she will be in prison for life. The judge could give her life with parole. I couldn't accept that. There is no doubt in my mind that IF she got paroled she would leave more destruction in her wake.

by carlakay Thu May 23, 2013 1:04 pm

in case nobodies aware of it yet the jury came in early today and are back at it right now.

by ladymary Thu May 23, 2013 1:07 pm

18thcenturylady wrote:
tesstruhart wrote:
I agree with you 18th. It freaks me out the way she sits for these interviews and obviously enjoys sparring with the reporters. It's all a game and she feels like she is winning. The rest of the world just has to figure out what the game is at the time. When asked if she is concerned about getting death penalty, the answer was not really. She feels like appeals will go on for years and if it happens at all, its years away. What an empty vessel. Also, apparently last night on HLN Chris Hughes was on and said that he is not married to the death penalty, even though she deserves it. He wants her to have the death row lifestyle. That is exactly how I feel.

Me too, Tess. If she just gets life, prison is NOT as austere and punitive as it will be if she's on death row. Sorry, but that is not good enough for me...

Indeed 18th century, she is a danger to all, even reporters, I totally though she was going to snap on the Good Morning America reporter "the hater" as she described him. She probably thought about it but their where to many people and security there. But he's on her "hate" list for sure. She is a danger to society, to prisoners and to those working in the corrections system.

by ladymary Thu May 23, 2013 1:09 pm

carlakay wrote:in case nobodies aware of it yet the jury came in early today and are back at it right now.

I saw that, I'm praying they come to a decision today and that it's the right one IMO DP. I hope that the ones that couldn't agree to sentence her to death, got some clarity last night at their homes when they could think about by themselves and just remembered what she did

by Mari 68 Thu May 23, 2013 1:11 pm

Darryl Brewer lies to himself - I guess so he can feel better about having spent 4 years with her. He doesn't want to believe she was just snowing him all along, too. That Jodi becomes whatever and whoever she needs to.

But Darryl Brewer also lies to US and to the jury. He was resistant when Juan questioned him about the gas cans - had he been told she was going to Mesa - he reluctantly, and in a hushed tone, admitted "yes"

And when Juan was asking him about did he remember Jodi returning to his home to bring something back. Darryl Brewer was smart and savvy enough to avoid "opening the door" to getting that damn DVD remote information out. Darryl knew. He lied.

IF he had acknowledged the remote, just merely acknowledging it, Juan could have asked "how did your remote get into her car?"

So f'k him, too.

Okay? He's a sick-ass bastard.

If any of those jurors believe Jodi used Travis' gun, and only found the pre-med due to the deliberate act of slicing his head off, then those may well be the jurors who don't find death for her.

They could be thinking, well yeah, it was pre-med and cruel, but Travis might have attacked her and she was just trying to protect herself with HIS gun.

by 18thcenturylady Thu May 23, 2013 1:13 pm

ladymary wrote:
18thcenturylady wrote:

Me too, Tess. If she just gets life, prison is NOT as austere and punitive as it will be if she's on death row. Sorry, but that is not good enough for me...

Indeed 18th century, she is a danger to all, even reporters, I totally though she was going to snap on the Good Morning America reporter "the hater" as she described him. She probably thought about it but their where to many people and security there. But he's on her "hate" list for sure. She is a danger to society, to prisoners and to those working in the corrections system.

Exactly! I know I was really shocked when she referred to Ryan Owens as a "hater". Who in the world who is 32 years old, convicted of first degree murder, and facing a possible death sentence talks like that, or uses the word "hater"??? It was creepy! She sounds more like a 13 year old bully on a playground!
NO normal adult talks that way! She is also extremely rageful and vengeful. I can see that that hasn't changed at all. She could and would easily explode in certain circumstances.

by Bmore Thu May 23, 2013 1:16 pm

She's so wrapped up in herself, thinking she's sooo Rico Suave that she doesn't see that she's not running the game, we are... We see you for what you are, we just like to watch you make an ass out of yourself... Why in the hell do you think we have Zoos? Because we like to watch animals for entertainment... Duh... girl go take a lesson... lol

by tesstruhart Thu May 23, 2013 1:19 pm

Mari 68 wrote:
tesstruhart wrote:Nemo, not to say that it couldn't happen, but prison guards are very savvy with the manipulative games of inmates. I never worked in a prison, but I did work in a jail. As street smart as these criminals are (and they are in ways that we would never think of), the staff of given correctional institute are wise to the ways of the criminals. The rules are such that, if followed, will not put you in compromising positions. There are many inservice classes on inmates and their wily ways.

I happen to know a handful of prison guards. Two of them are psychopaths themselves.

Psychopaths love control - so you find them, often, in positions of control. Jodi is f'ked either way you slice it.

LOL oh my Mari. Remind me to walk the straight and narrow. I wouldn't last 10 minutes being locked up behind the bars.

by ladymary Thu May 23, 2013 1:21 pm

18thcenturylady wrote:
ladymary wrote:

Indeed 18th century, she is a danger to all, even reporters, I totally though she was going to snap on the Good Morning America reporter "the hater" as she described him. She probably thought about it but their where to many people and security there. But he's on her "hate" list for sure. She is a danger to society, to prisoners and to those working in the corrections system.

Exactly! I know I was really shocked when she referred to Ryan Owens as a "hater". Who in the world who is 32 years old, convicted of first degree murder, and facing a possible death sentence talks like that, or uses the word "hater"??? It was creepy! She sounds more like a 13 year old bully on a playground!
NO normal adult talks that way! She is also extremely rageful and vengeful. I can see that that hasn't changed at all. She could and would easily explode in certain circumstances.

Right, hater is a word used by teens, but I guess in a way due to her immaturity she still acts like a teen, except for her vocabulary . It totally creeped me out when she said that to him, I truly thought she was going to snap...but she couldn't do that as witnesses were there. She definitely has the ability to completely loose her temper and physically attack someone that says something she doesn't want to here, making her a danger to everyone that has contact with her. I don't know she has borderline personality, maybe so, but for sure she is a sociopath and psychopath.

by 18thcenturylady Thu May 23, 2013 1:21 pm

Mari 68 wrote:Darryl Brewer lies to himself - I guess so he can feel better about having spent 4 years with her. He doesn't want to believe she was just snowing him all along, too. That Jodi becomes whatever and whoever she needs to.

But Darryl Brewer also lies to US and to the jury. He was resistant when Juan questioned him about the gas cans - had he been told she was going to Mesa - he reluctantly, and in a hushed tone, admitted "yes"

And when Juan was asking him about did he remember Jodi returning to his home to bring something back. Darryl Brewer was smart and savvy enough to avoid "opening the door" to getting that damn DVD remote information out. Darryl knew. He lied.

IF he had acknowledged the remote, just merely acknowledging it, Juan could have asked "how did your remote get into her car?"

So f'k him, too.

Okay? He's a sick-ass bastard.

If any of those jurors believe Jodi used Travis' gun, and only found the pre-med due to the deliberate act of slicing his head off, then those may well be the jurors who don't find death for her.

They could be thinking, well yeah, it was pre-med and cruel, but Travis might have attacked her and she was just trying to protect herself with HIS gun.

If you guys watch the interview that Darryl gave a few days ago, he out and out lied and said she DID NOT TELL HIM SHE WAS GOING TO MESA! I heard that and I couldn't believe it. I thought, wth?? I thought I had misunderstood the court testimony.
Go back and listen to his interview the other day---He says he didn't know she was going to Mesa!
That did it for me. I know the guy is just living in a dream world, looking back on his relationship with Jodi with rose colored glasses on. There was even an interview a little while ago with a chef at the restaurant they both worked at and he said they were both liars!!!! (Wish I could find that again).
Jodi was using Darryl just like she did everyone.
He's definitely lying when he sits there and says she was a totally different person before meeting Travis---BS!!!

Jodi was creepy, controlling, stalking, and a liar as far back at the relationship with Bobby at age 17. She was by all accounts a manipulator then. I don't know what sick agenda Darryl has, but he's definitely a lying liar who lies.

by Mari 68 Thu May 23, 2013 1:21 pm

Bmore wrote:She's so wrapped up in herself, thinking she's sooo Rico Suave that she doesn't see that she's not running the game, we are... We see you for what you are, we just like to watch you make an ass out of yourself... Why in the hell do you think we have Zoos? Because we like to watch animals for entertainment... Duh... girl go take a lesson... lol

Exactly. She thinks people want the interviews because we believe in this domestic violence victimhood game.

No, we like to be fascinated by psychopaths. We love to hear her use her big words wrong.

They asked about her fan mail - she said she had hundreds of post-cards - she then said "I don't think its even logistically possible to respond to all of them"

Logistically possible???

um, no - Jodi, that word doesn't fit. But thanks again for the laughs.

by Mari 68 Thu May 23, 2013 1:27 pm

tesstruhart wrote:
Mari 68 wrote:

I happen to know a handful of prison guards. Two of them are psychopaths themselves.

Psychopaths love control - so you find them, often, in positions of control. Jodi is f'ked either way you slice it.

LOL oh my Mari. Remind me to walk the straight and narrow. I wouldn't last 10 minutes being locked up behind the bars.

yeah, we'd never survive

One of the guys I know, haven known him for about 27 years or so - he THRIVES on his job - BRAGS about the abuse and schitt-games he plays on the prisoners.

EVERY single time I have seen him, over the years, since he got that job - he has STORIES of his sickness. A lot of the guys would laugh and pat him on the back - hats off to you kinda thing.

But I was sick about it. How can you enjoy torturing someone.

I knew him from high school - best buds with my ex - kids all grew up together - see him at BBQs and whatnot.

He's not my friend. Although if we spoke of one another to someone else we'd say we were friends for like 30 years.

by keikikiki Thu May 23, 2013 1:28 pm

olivier57 wrote:Hi all, hope it will be the last day today, the D-Day...

Oli!

Jodi Arias--Trial for the murder of Travis Alexander #23 - Page 6 88030

D-day! YES! Please!

I keep hoping the jury took notice of the Alexander's reaction to their impasse yesterday. Keep hoping that will give 'em the motivation they need to ensure that they carry this through for Travis & family. I'm optimistic. From this vantage point, am figuring they just need some time to sort out their own emotions from the facts here.

After D-day (fingers crossed- TODAY) they can just soak up all the 'prejudicial' evidence they haven't been privy to to offset any guilt they might feel about imposing dp on this tee shirt pimping monster.

18: Wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall when they finally see all this- the interviews & other evidence? Mmmm. I just can't see how her smug evilness wouldn't erase any molecule of doubt they might've been holding onto (about imposing dp).

Like Yoda-Mari68 says, I'll accept whatever they decide...If only because there's not a thing I can do to change it.

by Bmore Thu May 23, 2013 1:28 pm

it's easier to say friends for lack of a better word... I feel ya...

by 18thcenturylady Thu May 23, 2013 1:31 pm

keikikiki wrote:
olivier57 wrote:Hi all, hope it will be the last day today, the D-Day...

Oli!

D-day! YES! Please!

I keep hoping the jury took notice of the Alexander's reaction to their impasse yesterday. Keep hoping that will give 'em the motivation they need to ensure that they carry this through for Travis & family. I'm optimistic. From this vantage point, am figuring they just need some time to sort out their own emotions from the facts here.

After D-day (fingers crossed- TODAY) they can just soak up all the 'prejudicial' evidence they haven't been privy to to offset any guilt they might feel about imposing dp on this tee shirt pimping monster.

18: Wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall when they finally see all this- the interviews & other evidence? Mmmm. I just can't see how her smug evilness wouldn't erase any molecule of doubt they might've been holding onto (about imposing dp).

Like Yoda-Mari68 says, I'll accept whatever they decide...If only because there's not a thing I can do to change it.

Hi Kik!
LOL! "tee shirt pimping monster"!!! Love it!!!
roflao

by Mari 68 Thu May 23, 2013 1:31 pm

Bmore wrote:it's easier to say friends for lack of a better word... I feel ya...

Yes. If *I* needed anything - he'd help me - if any woman needed something, he'd be there - so he can LOOK good.

Its sad, really. I didn't know this psychopath schitt until about 10 years ago - that's when it sunk in.

Ignorance is bliss.

by keikikiki Thu May 23, 2013 1:32 pm

Bmore wrote:She's so wrapped up in herself, thinking she's sooo Rico Suave that she doesn't see that she's not running the game, we are... We see you for what you are, we just like to watch you make an ass out of yourself... Why in the hell do you think we have Zoos? Because we like to watch animals for entertainment... Duh... girl go take a lesson... lol

AAAAAAhahahahahahahaa! Rico Suave! Exactamundo! Hahahahahaha.

Duh.

Great post, as always Bmore! roflao

by Bmore Thu May 23, 2013 1:33 pm

that song cracks me up so much... lol

by keikikiki Thu May 23, 2013 1:40 pm

Mari 68 wrote:
Bmore wrote:She's so wrapped up in herself, thinking she's sooo Rico Suave that she doesn't see that she's not running the game, we are... We see you for what you are, we just like to watch you make an ass out of yourself... Why in the hell do you think we have Zoos? Because we like to watch animals for entertainment... Duh... girl go take a lesson... lol

Exactly. She thinks people want the interviews because we believe in this domestic violence victimhood game.

No, we like to be fascinated by psychopaths. We love to hear her use her big words wrong.

They asked about her fan mail - she said she had hundreds of post-cards - she then said "I don't think its even logistically possible to respond to all of them"

Logistically possible???

um, no - Jodi, that word doesn't fit. But thanks again for the laughs.

AAAH! My Rx-fog isn't letting me recall the other doozies she threw in, but her love of throwing in her big Thesaurus words is one of the only things that kept my head from popping off my body whilst subjecting myself to even more of her games. Joke's on YOU ya sparkly eye-shadow moron! Who in the hell uses "it's not really contemporaneous- ya know?" with a smug 'tude when confronted with a ? about her own mortality? Only this ignoramus. Only her.

D-day y'all. D-day. C'mon jury. Bring us home. Bases loaded. Easy pitch. Doooooo it.

by keikikiki Thu May 23, 2013 1:42 pm

Bmore wrote:that song cracks me up so much... lol

Omg I will never forget the moment I first saw that hilarious video on MTV...It came on smack after (hand to heart) Vanilla Ice 'Ice Ice Baby'...Was with my bestie Dan the man at his pad and we laughed our a$$es off that night and every mention of it since.

by 18thcenturylady Thu May 23, 2013 1:44 pm

...Another thing about Darryl---In the interview the other day, he said when he and Jack and Jodi would go camping they would bring the gas cans of gas with them.
Really?
Seriously?

You had a kid, and you brought FULL gas cans in your car on a camping trip???

I am sure he came up with this story after his day on the stand. What an idiot.
Jerk.

by 18thcenturylady Thu May 23, 2013 1:47 pm

by tesstruhart Thu May 23, 2013 1:48 pm

bunch of tweets saying all players amassing in courtroom. don't know anything

by Mari 68 Thu May 23, 2013 1:49 pm

18thcenturylady wrote:...Another thing about Darryl---In the interview the other day, he said when he and Jack and Jodi would go camping they would bring the gas cans of gas with them.
Really?
Seriously?

You had a kid, and you brought FULL gas cans in your car on a camping trip???

I am sure he came up with this story after his day on the stand. What an idiot.
Jerk.

Yeah, like its something we all would do every day just like a normal thing.

I don't hate him - but f'k him.

by tesstruhart Thu May 23, 2013 1:50 pm

And #JodiArias atty Willmott arrives and enters courtroom 5C
— Chris Williams (@chriswnews) May 23, 2013

Jennifer Willmott hurried right back to court after i just saw her walking away, there's. buzz in the air #JodiArias
— Lissette Martinez (@martinezliss) May 23, 2013

by keikikiki Thu May 23, 2013 1:50 pm

Way to bring some fun to this somber day!

The hot Geraldo! Hahahaha.

by tesstruhart Thu May 23, 2013 1:51 pm

More #TravisAlexander family has arrived & I just spoke with security who brought #JodiArias attys up (not in sight). No announcements
— Chris Williams (@chriswnews) May 23, 2013

by ladymary Thu May 23, 2013 1:52 pm

I heard Lifetime showcased a Jodi Arias Beyond the Headlines? I am wondering if anyone watched it, and if it was fair to Travis. I don't believe any of the Alexander's were interviewed for it, but JA brother and sister were, so it sounds kind of biased

by tesstruhart Thu May 23, 2013 1:53 pm

Just saw Person that deals with media in court, walk in, still not many people outside courthouse just media #JodiArias
— Lissette Martinez (@martinezliss) May 23, 2013

by Mari 68 Thu May 23, 2013 1:54 pm

Might just be a question?

I can't stand this up and down crap I feel.

I refuse to get all butt-hurt over this woman. She doesn't win. She won't win.

She loses. Everyone else will be happy - living a good life - not selling Survivor tee-shirts, not recycling garbage truck size loads of milk cartons, not teaching ABC's to other murderers, not playing sign-language games.

I will be enjoying my family.

by tesstruhart Thu May 23, 2013 1:55 pm

#TravisAlexander friends Chris & Sky Hughes just walked to victim's advocate room. #JodiArias
— Chris Williams (@chriswnews) May 23, 2013

by Mari 68 Thu May 23, 2013 1:56 pm

ladymary wrote:I heard Lifetime showcased a Jodi Arias Beyond the Headlines? I am wondering if anyone watched it, and if it was fair to Travis. I don't believe any of the Alexander's were interviewed for it, but JA brother and sister were, so it sounds kind of biased

Well, if her sister and brother are any kind of sister and brother, they WOULD be biased for their sister.

To tell the truth, I would require a video of my sister committing this crime before I would concede she was a monster. But then I would not take to the airwaves and admit it.

so whatev

The real interviews worth a damn thing are the ones with the parents and Det Flores we've yet to see in their entirety!

by Bmore Thu May 23, 2013 1:59 pm

that's it 18... My friends and I would say you were being Rico Suave if you were trying to be cool, have swag, be a bad ass, etc but you were really a joke... lol

by tesstruhart Thu May 23, 2013 1:59 pm

There is quite a buzz in here. Haven't heard of anything going on yet but media is anxious for sure. #JodiArias
— Wild About Trial (@WildAboutTrial) May 23, 2013

by Bo Thu May 23, 2013 2:00 pm

Their going in

by Mari 68 Thu May 23, 2013 2:00 pm

We're up

in court

what's going on?

by keikikiki Thu May 23, 2013 2:01 pm

Mari 68 wrote:
18thcenturylady wrote:...Another thing about Darryl---In the interview the other day, he said when he and Jack and Jodi would go camping they would bring the gas cans of gas with them.
Really?
Seriously?

You had a kid, and you brought FULL gas cans in your car on a camping trip???

I am sure he came up with this story after his day on the stand. What an idiot.
Jerk.

Yeah, like its something we all would do every day just like a normal thing.

I don't hate him - but f'k him.

Yes!

Yoda. Mari. Very Happy

Btw, Mari that's MUY interesante (was so inspired by her quest to enlighten the 90% Spanish speaking population there in AZ with her multi-lingual expertise) about your 'friend(s)'...Me thinky you have a great point about psychos being sprinkled into those power roles...In my naive early 20's, was introduced to one of the AZ prison wardens...short version is: couldn't shake him off my tail for 25+ yrs & he too was one of the sickest humans I've ever had the opportunity to speak with one-to-one over such a long period of time (as a client ONLY...though he was frighteningly relentless). Sick, sick, sick. Wow. Opened my naive ojos.

Yeah, the more I consider people like these guys in control of her future, the more I'm sure they'll have her under THEIR control- not the reverse.

by Bmore Thu May 23, 2013 2:02 pm

on fb earlier they mentioned didn't they (the jury) come in early the day they gave the verdict as well? it's all a blur to me... i'm kinda pissed about my McApple slices right now... I forgot to pack lunch and swung by McD's across the street this morning and got 2 bags of apple slices and one of the bags only has 3 slices in it and they're bitter like bug spray... lol

by Mari 68 Thu May 23, 2013 2:02 pm

OMG

a question and we don't even get to know what it was????

by Weeziethm Thu May 23, 2013 2:02 pm

Jury had a question. A prepared answer is being sent back; no objections to the answer by either defense or prosecution.

by Bo Thu May 23, 2013 2:03 pm

Q from juror

by 18thcenturylady Thu May 23, 2013 2:03 pm

Bmore wrote:that's it 18... My friends and I would say you were being Rico Suave if you were trying to be cool, have swag, be a bad ass, etc but you were really a joke... lol

Lol, I didn't know who Rico Suave was. Had to look it up! Found the youtube video and posted it here. Hilarious. and Yes, Jodi and her diva attitude are a joke---She's a legend in her own mind, lol!

by Bmore Thu May 23, 2013 2:04 pm

i just have the seal

by Mari 68 Thu May 23, 2013 2:04 pm

keikikiki wrote:
Mari 68 wrote:

Yeah, like its something we all would do every day just like a normal thing.

I don't hate him - but f'k him.

Yes!

Yoda. Mari.

Btw, Mari that's MUY interesante (was so inspired by her quest to enlighten the 90% Spanish speaking population there in AZ with her multi-lingual expertise) about your 'friend(s)'...Me thinky you have a great point about psychos being sprinkled into those power roles...In my naive early 20's, was introduced to one of the AZ prison wardens...short version is: couldn't shake him off my tail for 25+ yrs & he too was one of the sickest humans I've ever had the opportunity to speak with one-to-one over such a long period of time (as a client ONLY...though he was frighteningly relentless). Sick, sick, sick. Wow. Opened my naive ojos.

Yeah, the more I consider people like these guys in control of her future, the more I'm sure they'll have her under THEIR control- not the reverse.

this is why I think Jodi will, at BEST, TRY to kill again

She may not be successful about it - but if in GEN POP, she will be slighted, rejected, controlled, and she will SNAP and plan a murder.

by tesstruhart Thu May 23, 2013 2:08 pm

Jurors had a question that the judge reviewed in private with the attorneys. She prepared a written response... fb.me/2lvfNvP06
— Beth Karas (@BethKaras) May 23, 2013

by justanopinion Thu May 23, 2013 2:09 pm

she interviews with the stations her attorney's recommend ... and the ones she was warned about she doesn't want to "reward them for bad behaviour"

Seriously????

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/22/jodi-arias-speaks-out-about-case-in-jailhouse-interview-as-jury-deliberates-her/

by Bmore Thu May 23, 2013 2:09 pm

there is this prison movie on comedy central... forget what it's called... but the guy gets boat cleaner in a needle and the nazi bully comes after him to kill him and he knows it and he had the needle in his hand and the nazi was like so you were going to stab me? he was like no, that's my last fix man, don't take it from me... c'mon let me keep it... started acting like a real junky so the nazi shot himself up with it and he died... So he killed himself... lol the othe guy made all this ruckus in the cell like he beat his ass to scare the other prisoners... I could see her trying to be smoother about trying to kill someone next time...

by 18thcenturylady Thu May 23, 2013 2:12 pm

justanopinion wrote:she interviews with the stations her attorney's recommend ... and the ones she was warned about she doesn't want to "reward them for bad behaviour"

Seriously????

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/22/jodi-arias-speaks-out-about-case-in-jailhouse-interview-as-jury-deliberates-her/

OMG, this chica gets more and more creepy and nuts by the day!

by ladymary Thu May 23, 2013 2:12 pm

Mari 68 wrote:
ladymary wrote:I heard Lifetime showcased a Jodi Arias Beyond the Headlines? I am wondering if anyone watched it, and if it was fair to Travis. I don't believe any of the Alexander's were interviewed for it, but JA brother and sister were, so it sounds kind of biased

Well, if her sister and brother are any kind of sister and brother, they WOULD be biased for their sister.

To tell the truth, I would require a video of my sister committing this crime before I would concede she was a monster. But then I would not take to the airwaves and admit it.

so whatev

The real interviews worth a damn thing are the ones with the parents and Det Flores we've yet to see in their entirety!

Gotcha! Thanks! I wonder what the question the jury was?

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